Religions are man-made attempts to know God. God is God, and is not defined by religion. But, we can believe God is the Father who knows and understands all things
The Old Testament is not a document dictated by God to give us a perfect picture of God. The Old Testament is the story of one group of people trying to understand God–not just who God is, but what God is–and they got a lot wrong. God is both beyond our understanding, and our good Father. If that’s true, His plan for humanity is just beginning.
We get most things wrong about God, even now after 2000 years of Christianity. The diversity of Christianity makes this clear.
Religions are man-made attempts to know God, but we are learning.
If we believe in God, and that God is a loving Father, then we must believe in the incarnation. But, we cannot fully understand the incarnation since it ties together two things we’ve never experienced: 1) a pre-fallen state; 2) life after death.
I’ve taught Apologetics before. I didn’t like it. I wouldn’t consider myself a Christian apologist as apologists are expected to come up with black and white answers to difficult issues. I do not believe there are black and white answers. Also, apologists seem less interested in discovering truth than they are defending presupposed dogmas.
However, as unlikely as it seems, there’s a chance I might teach the subject again. Therefore I thought, “What are some legitimate reasons why one would doubt the supernatural nature of Christianity?”
Here is my list…
Unfalsifiability of Christianity
Claims about heaven, hell, or divine judgment rely on post-mortem experiences, which are unverifiable in life, aligning with critiques of supernatural claims lacking empirical testability.
Christians cannot claim that living a faithful Christian life guarantees success or well-being in this life, nor that rejecting the Christian life necessarily leads to hardship or misfortune here and now. We know this from simple observation. Plenty of non-religious people live happy fulfilling lives, and plenty of Christians live difficult unhappy lives. The promise of whether things go good or bad for you can apply only to the after-life, which is unfalsifiable.
The hope found in the New Testament is grounded on the soon return of Christ, the transformation of the world, and the transformation of the individual bodies of believers. This leads to my next reason…
Failed Eschatological Expectations
New Testament passages suggest Jesus’ return was expected within the first century, which didn’t occur, undermining divine foresight.
Modern Christians have no clear explanation for what happens at death since the New Testament doesn’t teach it. The authors of the New Testament did not expect the world to continue on for thousands of years after Pentecost. The New Testament authors expected the Parousia (return of Christ, resurrection/transformation of bodies, judgement) to happen within their own lifetimes or shortly after.
The Parousia did not happen at that time, nor has it happened from that time till now. This calls into question the divine inspiration of the New Testament writings.
I can also include here the issue of the scripture’s focus on national Israel and the covenant promises. The New Covenant was promised only to Israel (Jeremiah 31:31-34; Hebrews 8:8-13). While it is true that Paul preached the gospel to the gentile world, his primary concern was Israel, which is why he always began his preaching in the synagogues. He clearly was passionate about Israel embracing their New Covenant gospel (Romans 9:1-5). And while I am not a proponent of the Israel Only movement, one can ask, “What if the original Jesus movement, a sect within Judaism, was only a failed Israelite eschatology?”
Persistence of Evil Under Divine Rule/Absence of Physical Manifestation/Decline of Verifiable Miracles
If Jesus reigns as a divine king, the ongoing existence of suffering and injustice suggests a lack of observable supernatural governance or intervention.
Despite theological claims of Jesus’ ongoing divine presence, the lack of any verifiable physical manifestation calls into question the active role or power of a supernatural agent.
Whereas early Christian accounts abound with miracles, such as healings and resurrections, modern times lack consistent, empirically verified equivalents, raising doubts about the reliability of early miracle claims.
I’ve combined three reasons here into one as they all have to do with the tangible presence of Christ in the current world.
Since the Parousia did not happen in the first century, the Church had to adopt a new way of seeing things. For the most part the Church began to teach that the kingdom of Christ is partially manifest in the Church, and that Christ rules in the hearts of believers. There will still be a future Parousia and history as we know it will end.
One can ask then, “What has actually changed in the world post-Pentecost?” If Jesus is king, what exactly is he king over? The world? The Church? Heaven? He doesn’t appear to be ruling the world, at least not in any obvious way. Perhaps he is king over the Church, but the Church is so fragmented (see reason #7) that he could only be king over an invisible Church: the “true believers,” whoever they may be. Only God knows. We might say he reigns over heaven, which we presume to be perfect. Since we cannot see heaven, we cannot verify this.
Spread of Christianity Through Natural Means
Christianity’s global expansion correlates with historical forces such as imperial conquest, colonialism, demographic trends, and migration—factors that suggest a sociopolitical rather than supernatural spread.
Has the spread of Christianity over the last two thousand years been remarkably different than the spread of any other religion?
Syncretism with Pre-Christian Traditions/Parallels with Other Religious Traditions/Shift from Jewish Sect to Gentile Religion
Many Christian customs have clear roots in earlier pagan traditions, indicating a blending of cultural practices rather than the emergence of a wholly distinct revelation.
Christianity shares core motifs (such as virgin births and dying-and-rising gods) with older mythologies, implying that its supernatural claims may stem from universal myth-making rather than unique divine revelation.
Christianity’s shift from a Jewish Messianic sect to a Gentile-dominated religion suggests human-driven evolution rather than divine preservation.
I’ve again combined three points here to highlight the evolution of religion throughout time. Many scholars agree that pre-exilic Israel was shaped by the dominant cultures surrounding it in the formation of its theocratic system. Likewise, post-exilic Second Temple Judaism was significantly influenced by Zoroastrian and Hellenistic thought. Christianity, which began as a Jewish sect, is often seen as a synthesis of Jewish tradition and elements from first-century mystery religions. Over time, it evolved into a predominantly Gentile movement. These developments suggest a gradual, human-driven evolution of religious ideas rather than a singular, divinely revealed system.
Theological Discontinuity Between Testaments/Moral Progress Beyond Scripture
The portrayal of God in the Old Testament (wrathful and nationalistic) differs markedly from the loving and universal God of modern Christianity, suggesting doctrinal evolution shaped by cultural change rather than consistent divine character.
Modern ethical stances (e.g., the condemnation of slavery) often diverge from or contradict biblical teachings, indicating that moral advancement may arise from secular humanism rather than scriptural guidance.
I am not comparing God as portrayed in the Old Testament to God as portrayed in the New Testament here as much as I am comparing God as portrayed in the Old and New Testaments to God as portrayed by modern Christians. Modern Christians tend to read the Old Testament allegorically, and even Fundamentalists struggle to reconcile the differences.
Fragmentation Within Christianity/Subjectivity in Scriptural Interpretation
Theological and cultural divisions across denominations (e.g., Evangelical, Catholic, Eastern Orthodox) suggest Christianity is not a unified divine revelation but a diverse, evolving human tradition.
The need for personal or ecclesiastical interpretation of scripture underscores the role of human subjectivity in defining doctrine, weakening claims of an objective or universally clear divine message.
Christianity exhibits such a high degree of internal diversity that one expression of the faith may, in practice, function as a distinct religion from another. For example, American Evangelicalism and Syrian Orthodoxy differ so significantly in theology, worship, and worldview that they can be seen as fundamentally separate religious traditions.
Personality often plays a significant role in shaping the style of Christianity a person gravitates toward. For example, someone devoted to John MacArthur’s church is unlikely to transition to a Charismatic congregation. While he may claim his reasons are purely scriptural, it’s more likely that his theological preferences align with his personality (which, of course, includes his politics).
Modern Biblical Scholarship and Archaeology
Scholarship questions the historicity of key biblical events (e.g., Exodus, Canaanite conquests), and textual criticism highlights inconsistencies in manuscripts, undermining claims of divine inspiration.
Did Moses write the Pentateuch? Or was it written by several authors and compiled later? Did the exodus out of Egypt actually happen? Did Daniel write Daniel? Did Daniel exist? Or was the book of Daniel Maccabean propaganda? Who wrote the gospels? Did Paul write all the letters attributed to him?
Modern scholars differ much in their opinions, and I find they often overstate their arguments. However, their work cannot simply be dismissed because it contradicts traditional Christian beliefs.
Psychological and Sociological Explanations for Religious Experience
Neuroscience and psychology offer naturalistic explanations for spiritual experiences (e.g., visions, divine presence) as brain-based phenomena, and sociological factors like community bonding explain Christianity’s appeal.
Worship services with dimmed lighting and emotional music absolutely influence how a person feels about what they perceive to be Jesus. This isn’t just true of modern western services, but it is true of ancient style Orthodox services as well.
It’s easy to see, especially with productions like The Chosen, that Christians will form their religion to fit their specific needs and desires. One would think it would be impossible to turn Jesus into a false idol, but how can modern Christians be sure that’s not exactly what they’re doing?
The following is a cleaned up transcript from the above video (starting at 25:51)…
Think of it this way: one way of understanding Jesus as the Incarnate Son of God, as Maximus says, is that in most human beings, there is the natural will. In all rational creatures, there’s the natural will, which spontaneously desires only God and chooses only God because that’s its true end. To the degree that we’re separate from God, we have a deliberative or gnomic will, the psychological will that can make errors, go in the wrong direction, and do sinful things. Jesus, according to Maximus, doesn’t have a gnomic will, not because He lacks the capacity for deliberation, but because He’s so perfectly, fully, truly one with the Father and is Himself the Son that there’s no division between who He is essentially and who He is psychologically and empirically. There’s no space of separation. Human beings are called to become like that, utterly transparent before Christ to the presence of Christ in them in the Holy Spirit. As Paul says in First Corinthians 15, God becomes all in all, not just all over all, but all in all.
Here is an expansion on what David Bentley Hart said…
1. The Natural Will in Rational Creatures
Hart begins by referencing Maximus’s concept of the natural will (Greek: thelema physikon). According to Maximus, the natural will is an inherent faculty in all rational creatures—humans, angels, and other spiritual beings—that spontaneously orients them toward their ultimate end: God. This will is not deliberative or subject to choice in the way we typically understand decision-making; it is an intrinsic, ontological drive toward the good, the true, and the beautiful, which Maximus (and Hart) identifies as God Himself. The natural will is rooted in the idea that rational creatures are created in the image of God (imago Dei), and their deepest desire, by nature, is to be united with their divine source.
Expansion: The natural will reflects Maximus’s broader metaphysical framework, where creation is inherently oriented toward God as its telos (purpose or end). This aligns with the Christian patristic tradition, particularly the Eastern emphasis on theosis (deification), where the purpose of human existence is to participate fully in the divine life. Hart emphasizes that this desire for God is not a conscious choice but a fundamental aspect of what it means to be a rational being. It’s why Augustine’s famous phrase, “Our hearts are restless till they rest in you,” resonates here (mentioned earlier in the video at 4:25–4:32). The natural will is the “restless heart” seeking its fulfillment in God.
2. The Gnomic Will and Human Separation
Hart contrasts the natural will with the gnomic will (Greek: thelema gnomikon), which Maximus describes as a deliberative or discursive mode of willing. The gnomic will arises because humans, in their fallen state, are separated from God. This separation introduces a psychological and empirical dimension to human willing, where choices are made through deliberation, often leading to errors or sin. The gnomic will is not inherently evil but is a consequence of human freedom in a state of estrangement from God, where individuals can choose against their natural end (God) due to ignorance, temptation, or misdirection.
Expansion: The concept of the gnomic will is central to Maximus’s Christology and anthropology. In Maximus’s view, the fall fractured human nature, introducing a tension between the natural will (which always desires God) and the gnomic will (which can choose otherwise). This is why humans can act against their own ultimate good, choosing lesser goods or sinful paths. Hart’s point is that the gnomic will is a temporary condition, a product of the “space of separation” between humans and God. This separation is not ontological in the sense of altering human nature’s essence but experiential, resulting from the fall and the limitations of human perception and freedom in this world.
3. Jesus and the Absence of the Gnomic Will
Hart explains that, according to Maximus, Jesus, as the Incarnate Son of God, does not possess a gnomic will. This is not because Jesus lacks the capacity for deliberation—He is fully human and thus capable of human reasoning and choice—but because His human nature is perfectly united with His divine nature. In Jesus, there is no division between who He is essentially (His divine and human natures united in the hypostatic union, as defined by Chalcedonian Christology) and who He is psychologically and empirically (His lived experience as a human being). Jesus’s human will is perfectly aligned with the divine will, so there is no need for a deliberative, gnomic process that could lead to error or sin.
Expansion: Maximus developed this idea in response to the Monothelite controversy (7th century), which debated whether Jesus had one will (divine) or two (divine and human). Maximus argued for dyothelitism—that Jesus has both a divine will and a human will, but the human will operates without the gnomic mode because it is perfectly attuned to the divine. This is critical for Maximus’s soteriology: Jesus’s perfect unity of wills demonstrates the possibility of human nature being restored to its intended state, where the natural will fully governs without the interference of a gnomic will prone to error. Hart’s reference to “no division” reflects the Chalcedonian principle of the hypostatic union, where Jesus’s two natures (divine and human) are united without confusion, change, division, or separation. In Jesus, the human will is “transparent” to the divine, embodying the goal of human deification.
4. Human Destiny: Becoming Transparent to Christ
Hart extends this Christological insight to human destiny, stating that humans are called to become like Jesus—utterly transparent to the presence of Christ within them through the Holy Spirit. This transparency means aligning the human will with the natural will’s orientation toward God, eliminating the gnomic will’s tendency to err. In this state, humans become fully united with God, participating in the divine life (theosis), where their individuality is not erased but fulfilled.
Expansion: This idea of “transparency” draws on Maximus’s theology of deification, where the human person, through grace and the work of the Holy Spirit, becomes a perfect reflection of the divine Logos (Christ). The term “transparent” suggests a state where the human self is no longer opaque or obstructive to God’s presence but allows the divine light to shine through fully. This aligns with the Eastern Christian emphasis on theosis as the fulfillment of human nature, not its annihilation. Hart’s earlier discussion in the video (around 22:24–25:00) about becoming “uncreated” clarifies that this does not mean annihilation but becoming fully united with the uncreated God, sharing in His nature while retaining personal identity. The analogy of a prism’s facets (27:33–28:24) illustrates this: each facet (individual person) remains distinct, but the light (God) shines through all, uniting them in one divine reality.
5. First Corinthians 15: God Becomes All in All
Hart concludes this section by referencing Paul’s statement in First Corinthians 15:28, where God becomes “all in all” (panta en pasin). This is the culmination of the apokatastasis (universal restoration), where all creation is reconciled to God, not merely ruled over (“all over all”) but fully indwelt by God. This underscores Hart’s broader argument in the video (e.g., 21:15–21:28, 27:26–27:33) that Christian eschatology points to universal salvation, where all rational beings are deified, becoming fully united with God’s presence.
Expansion: In First Corinthians 15, Paul describes the resurrection and the ultimate subjection of all things to Christ, who then subjects Himself to the Father, so that God may be “all in all.” For Maximus and Hart, this is not a coercive domination but a transformative union where every rational creature’s natural will is fully realized, free from the distortions of the gnomic will. This ties into Hart’s rejection of the Thomistic “two-tier” view (2:50–9:01), which posits a natural end for humans separate from the supernatural. Instead, Hart and Maximus see human nature as inherently oriented toward deification, with no ultimate separation between nature and grace. The phrase “all in all” suggests a cosmic restoration where every aspect of creation—mineral, vegetable, animal, and human (18:48–18:56)—is transfigured, participating in God’s eternal life. This is why Hart emphasizes universal salvation in That All Shall Be Saved (mentioned at 21:15–21:21), arguing it is the only logical outcome of Christian eschatology.
6. Context in the Video
This passage (around 25:57–27:33) is part of Hart’s broader discussion of deification and the rejection of a nature-supernature dichotomy. Earlier, he critiques the Thomistic view that separates natural and supernatural ends (2:50–9:01), arguing it creates a “psychotic picture of reality” (20:32) where grace is arbitrary and disconnected from human nature. He contrasts this with the Eastern patristic view, including Maximus, where nature and grace are continuous, and human destiny is to become “uncreated” by participating in God’s life (21:47–25:00). The discussion of Jesus’s will and human transparency to Christ builds on this, showing how Christ’s incarnation models the human calling to deification, where the natural will is fully realized in union with God.
7. Broader Implications
Hart’s exposition has several implications:
Christology and Anthropology: Jesus’s lack of a gnomic will demonstrates the potential for human nature to be restored to its original purpose. Humans are called to overcome the gnomic will’s errors through grace, becoming like Christ in their unity with God.
Universal Salvation: The reference to “all in all” supports Hart’s argument for universal salvation, where all rational creatures achieve this transparency, fulfilling their natural will’s desire for God.
Eastern vs. Western Theology: Hart aligns with Eastern Orthodox theology (Cappadocian Fathers, Maximus, Pseudo-Dionysius) over Western Thomistic distinctions, emphasizing a monistic metaphysics where God is the ground of all being (11:36–13:19).
Practical Spirituality: Becoming “transparent” to Christ suggests a spiritual path of aligning one’s will with God’s through prayer, contemplation, and participation in the life of the Holy Spirit, a theme resonant in Eastern Christian mysticism.
Conclusion
Hart, through Maximus, presents Jesus as the paradigm of human destiny: a being whose human will is perfectly aligned with the divine, free from the deliberative errors of the gnomic will. Humans are called to this same unity, becoming transparent to Christ’s presence within them, culminating in the eschatological vision of First Corinthians 15, where God becomes “all in all.” This reflects Hart’s broader theological project of rejecting artificial distinctions between nature and grace, advocating for a monistic metaphysics where all creation is destined for deification, supporting his case for universal salvation. The passage encapsulates a vision of human fulfillment not as annihilation but as a transformative union with God, retaining personal identity while fully participating in the divine life.
All theological positions are based on one’s philosophy of life, not the scriptures.
It’s like a game of Dodgeball. The team you’re on is determined by your philosophical presuppositions. The scriptures are just the balls being thrown around.
If you’ve come across this article I am assuming you’ve been looking into Israel-Only and already have a good idea of what it teaches, but here is my definition:
Israel Only is a fringe hermeneutical system which reduces the biblical narrative to a hyper-fundamentalist interpretive construct, portraying an exclusive, Israelite-only redemption that ended in AD 70. It redefines “gentiles” as estranged Israelites to fit a prophetic framework. This narrative, largely detached from historical realities, functions more as a doctrinal lens than a credible historical account. Prioritizing a selective reading of scripture over historical evidence, IO reflects an extreme literalism and insularity that surpasses traditional fundamentalism.
However, that definition would probably be rejected by an IO proponent. Here is a definition by an actual IO proponent…
IO (Israel Only) is a hermeneutic that applies a consistent application of audience relevance across the biblical domains of soteriology and eschatology. IO shows that the entire bible’s redemptive narrative pertains only to the twelve tribes of old covenant Israel. IO rightly concludes that the end of the bible story happened in AD70 and that none of that story involves people today.
IO returns biblical words and phrases to their original Israelite context, showing that in many cases words like “world” (kosmos) referred to the covenant world of Israel (not the entire planet )and that “gentiles” (ethnos) who were saved were descendants of the tribes of Israel who had been dispersed among the nations.
IO also defends the view that Israel’s redemptive narrative ended in AD70, along with the need for the gospel. It is a view that is scriptural, adheres faithfully to audience relevance and has consideration for the exclusively Hebrew cultural and religious milieu the scriptures came from.
IO shows from the scriptures that salvation and redemption were only meant for old covenant Israel, which means nobody today is saved and redeemed, nor has anyone needed salvation and redemption since the first century. IO essentially destroys the premises upon which the post-AD70 version of Christianity relies on.
To disprove IO, one would have to show from the scriptures that non-Israelite nations had and were under the law of Moses, were judged at the end of the age, that Paul believed his audiences were non-Israelites, that there was a metanarrative involving restoration of non-Israelites, that non-Israelites were referred to as an olive tree, as the elect, as the sheep, that Jesus died for people outside of the 1st covenant, that non-Israelites were part of Christ’s new covenant and that the need for the gospel was expected to extend past the end of the age. To date, no one has been able to show any of those.
IO offers people the opportunity to understand why they were never sinners and why Jesus never needed to save them. This is good news! It can also save people money every Sunday, which can improve their quality of life. IO tends to be a great relief for people who have suffered mental and emotional anguish from the false premises of post-AD70 Christianity’s contrived narrative (like all are sinners on the way to a judgement and need salvation) and all the religious nonsense that comes with it.
Michael Bradley, 2025 (‘Preterist Perspectives Discussion & Debate’ Facebook group)
Israel Only (IO) theology is an outlier in Christian thought, requiring a specific and rare set of beliefs to even engage with it. Adherents must be Protestant, fundamentalist, Sola Scriptura-affirming, and preterist—a combination most Christians, historically and today, do not share. Upon arriving at IO, one finds a narrative that renders the modern believer’s role irrelevant, potentially leading to disillusionment or even atheism. However, no atheist would approach the Bible with the same rigid framework as an IO proponent, rendering the theology self-contained and insular. IO relies on unprovable claims detached from broader reality.
IO theology constructs a compelling narrative, but Judaism and Christianity are not mere stories—they are grounded in historical reality. Paul, a historical figure, preached a tangible gospel to real communities. IO’s assertion that all of Paul’s Gentile converts were descendants of uncovenanted Israelites fits its narrative but lacks historical evidence. In practice, Paul could not have distinguished between Israelite and non-Israelite Gentiles. This claim, while central to IO, remains unprovable and disconnected from the documented realities of early Christian history.
Furthermore, IO’s arguments falter logically. IO proponents can only claim that Gentile converts were proven to be Israelites after they converted, which is circular reasoning, assuming the conclusion within the premise (Gentiles converted because they were Israelites, and they were Israelites because they converted). Similarly, arguing that Paul’s Gentiles must have been Israelites due to Old Testament prophecies about the reunification of Judah and Ephraim is a non sequitur. Paul’s reinterpretation of scripture and his challenges to Jewish norms demonstrate he was not bound by such prophecies in a literal sense, undermining IO’s reliance on them.
Lastly, the notion that the Bible forms a single, cohesive narrative, as if penned by one author, may resonate within fundamentalist circles, but biblical scholarship tells a different story. Scholars recognize that each book of the Bible carries distinct themes, messages, and perspectives, with some books even presenting conflicting viewpoints. Moreover, Israel’s theology demonstrably evolved over time, reflecting changing cultural and historical contexts. This diversity and development challenges the Israel Only idea of the Bible as a singular, perfectly unified story.
Israel Only Crankery
Through interacting with IO proponents and reading Richard Carrier’s article refuting IO, and with the help of AI, I composed the following critique of IO…
The Israel-Only (IO) movement claims that Paul’s gospel targeted only estranged Israelites (northern tribes exiled in 721 BC) as covenant-bound gentiles (ethnē), identified by faith (Gal. 3:29) and Holy Spirit manifestations (Acts 10:44-46, 19:2-6), with salvation exclusive to Israel and ending in AD 70 (Acts 13:23-24, Rom. 9:4-5). They argue genealogies (Numbers 1, Ezra 2) preserved covenant eligibility, enabling identification. This essay refutes IO, arguing it is unbiblical, unhistorical, and logically flawed, as Paul could not distinguish Israelite from non-Israelite gentiles, per Richard Carrier’s critique.
IO’s logic is circular, assuming gentiles like Cornelius were Israelites because only Israelites could receive faith and the Spirit, then claiming these traits prove Israelite status. Carrier calls this “circular reasoning,” as IO provides no independent evidence that faith or Spirit were Israelite-exclusive. Without such evidence, their claim collapses. Biblical texts like Acts 10 describe Cornelius as a gentile (ethnē), with no indication of Israelite descent, undermining IO’s premise. Faith and Spirit were spiritual, not ethnic, criteria, incapable of verifying lineage, leaving Paul without a mechanism to identify Israelites.
Estranged Israelites were unidentifiable in the first century. Carrier argues they were fully assimilated post-721 BC, indistinguishable from other gentiles due to intermarriage and paganism. Josephus (Antiquities 11.133) places any remnant “beyond the Euphrates,” not in Paul’s mission areas like Corinth or Ephesus. Genealogical records, unlike Judeans’ in Ezra 2, were lost, making lineage-based identification impossible. Numbers 1 and Ezra 2 applied to active covenant communities, not future estranged descendants. Moreover, estranged Israelites were not in covenant, having “ceased to be Israelites” as pagans. The Mishnah (Sanhedrin 10) excludes them from salvation, and Romans 11:23 requires their reconversion, confirming they were not covenant-bound. IO’s claim that they remained covenantally significant is anachronistic, projecting modern biological notions onto ancient covenantal theology.
Paul’s gospel was universal, not Israelite-exclusive. Romans 11:13-24 describes ethnē as “wild olive shoots” grafted into Israel’s tree through faith, not descent, showing Paul targeted diverse audiences. Romans 9:6-8 redefines “Israel” as spiritual, including ethnē via faith. Galatians 3:8-9 cites Genesis 18:18, promising salvation to “all nations,” not just Israelite tribes. IO’s AD 70 cutoff is a preterist fallacy; Paul expected a cosmic end (1 Cor. 15:23-26), not temple destruction. These texts refute IO’s restrictive salvation model.
IO’s position is untenable. Its circular logic, reliance on unidentifiable Israelites, and denial of Paul’s universal mission contradict biblical evidence, historical reality, and Carrier’s analysis. Paul could not distinguish Israelite ethnē, as his criteria were spiritual, not ethnic, affirming the gospel’s broader scope.
Below is a video in which Jen Fishburne (a foremost IO proponent) defines IO. The section in which she does this is from 58:27 to 1:15:32…
Why Paul’s Gentiles in Romans 11 Were Not Estranged Israelites
The Israel-Only (IO) movement presents a tidy narrative, claiming that Paul’s Gentiles (ethnē) grafted into the olive tree in Romans 11:17-24 were estranged Israelites—descendants of the northern tribes exiled in 721 BC—restored to Israel’s covenant through faith and the Holy Spirit, with salvation exclusive to Israel and fulfilled by AD 70. While this story wraps biblical history neatly, it relies on unproven assumptions about Paul’s intentions, contradicts his clear teachings, and ignores historical realities. Scripture shows that non-Israelites could join Israel’s covenant, that Paul redefined “Israel” beyond ethnicity, and that Gentile converts became the majority of his covenant community. Thus, the ethnē in Romans 11 could not be estranged Israelites but were non-Israelites integrated through faith, refuting IO’s restrictive view.
IO’s Assumption About Paul’s Thinking Lacks Evidence
IO claims Paul’s ethnē were estranged Israelites, but Paul never states this. In Romans 11:13, he declares, “I am the apostle to the Gentiles,” addressing ethnē as distinct from Jews, but not as lost Israelite tribes. His olive tree analogy calls ethnē “wild olive shoots” grafted into Israel’s “cultivated olive tree,” contrasting them with “natural branches” (ethnic Israelites, Rom. 11:17, 24). The phrase “wild by nature” (11:24) emphasizes their foreign, non-Israelite origin. If ethnē were Israelites, they would be “natural branches,” not wild shoots requiring unnatural grafting. IO assumes Paul secretly viewed ethnē as Israelites, but this relies on unproven presuppositions, not Scripture. No text—neither Romans 11, Galatians 3:29, nor Acts 10:44-46—identifies ethnē as northern tribes. IO’s claim projects their theology onto Paul, ignoring his explicit language. As Scripture-focused readers, you must demand evidence, which IO cannot provide.
Non-Israelites Could Join Israel’s Covenant
Scripture and history confirm that non-Israelites could become covenant members, undermining IO’s claim that ethnē were exclusively Israelites. In the Old Testament, foreigners joined Israel through covenant adherence, not descent. Exodus 12:48 allows circumcised foreigners to partake in Passover, integrating them into Israel’s worship. Ruth, a Moabite, became an Israelite by faith and loyalty (Ruth 1:16, 4:13-17), and Ezra 6:21 includes “all who had separated themselves from the impurity of the nations” in Israel’s covenant community, regardless of lineage. In the Second Temple period, Gentiles converted to Judaism through circumcision, Torah observance, and immersion, as seen with figures like Achior in Judith 14:10. Josephus records conversions (Antiquities 20.38-39), showing non-Israelites could join Israel’s covenant. Paul’s ethnē, grafted by faith (Rom. 11:20), follow this pattern, entering the covenant as non-Israelites, not as presumed Israelite descendants. IO’s restriction to biological Israel ignores this biblical precedent.
Paul Redefined Israel Beyond Ethnicity
Paul explicitly redefines “Israel” as a spiritual, not ethnic, entity, contradicting IO’s biological focus. In Romans 9:6-8, he states, “Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel… it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.” This spiritual definition includes ethnē via faith, not descent. Romans 11:17-24 reinforces this, as “wild olive shoots” (ethnē) are grafted into the covenant tree alongside “natural branches” (Israelites), united by faith, not ethnicity. Galatians 3:29 declares, “If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed,” extending covenant membership to believers, regardless of lineage. Romans 4:11-17 calls Abraham “father of many nations,” including ethnē without Israelite descent. IO’s claim that ethnē were estranged Israelites misreads Paul’s theology, which transcends ethnicity to form a new covenant community. Scripture demands we accept Paul’s redefinition, not impose a tribal limit.
Gentile Converts Became the Majority of Paul’s Israel
Over time, Gentile converts dominated Paul’s covenant community, proving ethnē were not estranged Israelites. In Acts 13:46-48, Paul turns to ethnē after Jewish rejection, and “all who were appointed for eternal life believed,” suggesting a broad, non-Israelite audience. His mission in diverse cities like Corinth and Ephesus (1 Cor. 1:14-16, Acts 19:10) targeted mixed populations, not identifiable Israelite enclaves. By the late first century, early Christian communities were predominantly Gentile, as seen in Ignatius’ letters (e.g., Magnesians 10:3), reflecting Paul’s success among ethnē. Romans 11:25-26 (“all Israel will be saved”) includes these grafted ethnē, not just ethnic Israel, per Paul’s spiritual redefinition (Rom. 9:6-8). IO’s claim requires an unprovable Israelite diaspora, but historical assimilation—after 750 years of intermarriage (2 Kings 17:24-34, Hos. 1:9)—made northern tribes indistinguishable from Gentiles. The Mishnah (Yadayim 4:4) notes Sennacherib “mixed up all the nations,” erasing identities. Paul’s ethnē were non-Israelites, as their majority in his churches confirms.
Refuting the IO Proponent’s Covenantal Resurrection
The IO proponent’s forum response, claiming the resurrection in Matthew 22:30 was a corporate, spiritual transition for Israel from the Old to New Covenant, illustrates their flawed approach. Matthew 22:30 describes a future, physical resurrection where individuals are “like angels,” not marrying—a transformed state, not a covenantal shift (1 Cor. 15:42-44). The IO view misreads this as Israel’s liberation from marriage laws, ignoring that NT ethics uphold marriage universally (Eph. 5:22-33). Their pre-AD 70 focus contradicts post-70 CE texts like Matthew, written for ongoing relevance (Matt. 28:19-20). By assuming ethnē were Israelites, IO imposes an unproven narrative, mirroring their circular logic in Romans 11: claiming ethnē were Israelites because only Israelites were saved, without evidence. Scripture (Rom. 11:13, Acts 15:8) shows Paul’s universal gospel, not an Israel-only story.
Conclusion
IO’s narrative, while neatly packaged, crumbles under scrutiny. Paul never identifies ethnē as estranged Israelites, and IO’s assumption about his thinking lacks scriptural support. Non-Israelites could join Israel’s covenant (Exod. 12:48, Ruth 1:16), Paul redefined “Israel” spiritually (Rom. 9:6-8), and Gentile converts dominated his churches (Acts 13:46-48), proving ethnē were non-Israelites grafted by faith (Rom. 11:17-24). Assimilation erased northern tribes’ identities (Hos. 1:9), making IO’s claim impossible. I urge you to examine Romans 11 and Galatians 3:29. Paul’s universal gospel welcomes all into God’s covenant, not just a presumed Israelite remnant.
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Below is some AI research…
In The Incompetent Crankery of the Israel Only Movement, Richard Carrier discusses rabbinic views on Gentile converts to Judaism briefly, primarily to counter the Israel-Only (IO) movement’s claim that Paul’s Gentiles (ethnē) were estranged Israelites and that salvation was exclusive to Israel. Carrier’s references to rabbinic thought focus on how Gentiles could become part of Israel through conversion, challenging IO’s ethnic exclusivity, and how estranged Israelites were viewed as covenantally insignificant. Below, I summarize everything Carrier says about what rabbis thought about Gentile converts, with precise page references and context, ensuring a comprehensive yet concise response that ties to your broader inquiry into IO theology and Paul’s Gentiles in Romans 11.
Carrier’s Discussion of Rabbinic Views on Gentile Converts
Carrier’s comments on rabbinic perspectives are drawn from Second Temple and early rabbinic sources, particularly the Mishnah, to illustrate that Gentile conversion was an established practice and that covenant membership was not strictly biological. His points are:
Gentiles Could Become Israelites Through Conversion (pp. 4, 15):
Context: Carrier argues that IO’s claim—that only ethnic Israelites could be saved—ignores historical evidence that Gentiles could join Israel’s covenant. He cites the Second Temple period’s acceptance of Gentile converts to show that Paul’s ethnē (e.g., in Rom. 11:17-24) could be non-Israelites grafted into Israel’s covenant, not estranged Israelites.
Rabbinic View: Carrier notes that “Gentiles could become Israelites by conversion” (p. 15), referencing practices like circumcision and Torah observance. He points to Ezra 6:21, where non-Israelites joined Judah’s covenant community through adherence, not descent, reflecting a proto-rabbinic openness to converts (p. 4). While not directly citing the Mishnah here, Carrier’s broader argument aligns with later rabbinic texts (e.g., Mishnah Bikkurim 1:4), which treat converts as full Israelites upon circumcision and immersion.
Implication for IO: This refutes IO’s assumption that ethnē were Israelites, as Gentiles could enter the covenant without ethnic ties, aligning with Paul’s inclusion of ethnē as “wild olive shoots” (Rom. 11:17, pp. 19-20). Rabbinic acceptance of converts shows covenant membership was not biologically exclusive, undermining IO’s premise.
Estranged Israelites Were Not Considered Covenant Members (pp. 5-6):
Context: Carrier counters IO’s claim that estranged northern tribes remained covenant-bound, arguing that rabbis viewed them as having “ceased to be Israelites” due to paganism and assimilation.
Rabbinic View: He cites the Mishnah (Sanhedrin 10:3, implicitly on p. 5), which excludes uncircumcised or apostate descendants from salvation, stating that “Israelites who have no share in the world to come” include those who reject the covenant. Carrier interprets this to mean that rabbis considered estranged Israelites “not in covenant” (p. 6), as they were indistinguishable from Gentiles after 750 years of intermarriage and pagan practices (p. 25).
Implication for IO: This challenges IO’s view that ethnē were covenant-bound Israelites. If rabbis excluded estranged Israelites, Paul’s ethnē were more likely Gentile converts (per rabbinic conversion norms) than a presumed Israelite diaspora. In Romans 11:23, estranged Israelites need regrafting through faith, like Gentiles, not automatic inclusion (p. 19).
Context: Carrier connects rabbinic conversion practices to Paul’s theology, arguing that Paul’s inclusion of ethnē in Romans 11:17-24 and Galatians 3:29 (“Abraham’s seed” through faith) reflects a broader covenant accessible to Gentiles, not restricted to Israelites.
Rabbinic View: He notes that “in the very era of Paul, Gentiles were converting to Judaism” (p. 15), citing examples like Josephus’ accounts of conversions (Antiquities 20.38-39). This shows rabbis and Jewish communities accepted Gentiles as Israelites through conversion, supporting Paul’s grafting of ethnē as non-Israelites (p. 19). Carrier implies that rabbis viewed converts as covenant members, akin to Paul’s spiritual redefinition of “Israel” (Rom. 9:6-8, p. 18).
Implication for IO: IO’s claim that ethnē were Israelites ignores this context. Rabbinic openness to Gentile converts aligns with Paul’s mission to ethnē (Rom. 11:13), who dominate his churches (Acts 13:46-48), not an Israelite remnant.
Summary of Carrier’s Points
Carrier’s discussion of rabbinic views on Gentile converts includes:
Conversion Allowed Covenant Membership: Rabbis accepted Gentiles as Israelites through conversion (circumcision, Torah observance), per Second Temple practices (Ezra 6:21, Josephus; pp. 4, 15). This shows covenant access was not ethnically exclusive.
Estranged Israelites Excluded: The Mishnah (Sanhedrin 10) excludes uncircumcised or apostate Israelites from salvation, viewing them as non-covenantal, not distinct from Gentiles (pp. 5-6).
Support for Paul’s Theology: Rabbinic conversion norms align with Paul’s inclusion of ethnē as non-Israelites in the covenant (Rom. 11:17-24, Gal. 3:29; p. 15), refuting IO’s Israelite-only claim.
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Question: Were non-Israelite/non-Jewish circumcised converts allowed into the temple’s Court of Israel (also known as the Court of the Jews) in Paul’s time?
Answer: Yes, Non-Israelite/Non-Jewish Circumcised Converts Were Allowed into the Court of Israel
In Paul’s time (c. 30–60 CE), non-Israelite/non-Jewish circumcised converts to Judaism, known as proselytes, were generally permitted to enter the Temple’s Court of Israel (or Court of the Jews), provided they had fully converted through circumcision, immersion, and Torah observance, achieving the status of a full Jew. This court, restricted to Jewish men, was distinct from the outer Court of the Gentiles, which allowed non-Jews. The evidence below supports this conclusion, addressing the Temple’s structure, conversion practices, and rabbinic views, while refuting IO’s ethnic exclusivity.
1. Temple Structure and Access Rules
Court of Israel Description: The Second Temple in Jerusalem had a hierarchical layout, described by Josephus (War 5.190–200) and the Mishnah (Middot 2:1–6). The Court of the Gentiles was open to all, but the Court of Israel (also called the Court of the Jews in some sources, e.g., Josephus, War 5.194) was restricted to Jewish men who were ritually pure. This court surrounded the Court of the Priests and was where Jewish men could approach for worship and sacrifices.
Warnings Against Non-Jewish Entry: Inscriptions on the balustrade separating the Court of the Gentiles from inner courts warned: “No foreigner may enter within the balustrade around the sanctuary… whoever is caught will be responsible for his own death” (Josephus, War 5.193–94; Antiquities 15.417; cf. archaeological evidence of the “Soreg” inscription). “Foreigner” (ἀλλογενής) typically meant uncircumcised non-Jews, not converts, as proselytes were considered Jews post-conversion.
Evidence for Convert Access: The Mishnah (Shekalim 1:5) implies that proselytes, as full Jews, paid the Temple tax and participated in worship, suggesting access to the Court of Israel. Josephus notes that converts like Achior (Judith 14:10) were integrated into Israel, implying Temple access for sacrifices (Antiquities 20.38–39). Acts 21:28–29, where Paul is accused of bringing an uncircumcised Gentile (Trophimus) into the Temple, underscores that only Jews (including converts) were allowed, reinforcing that circumcised proselytes were not “foreigners.”
2. Conversion Practices in Paul’s Time
Process of Conversion: In Second Temple Judaism, non-Israelites could become Jews through circumcision (for men), immersion, and Torah observance, as evidenced by texts like Judith 14:10 and Josephus (Antiquities 13.257–58, 20.38–39). Carrier notes, “In the very era of Paul, Gentiles were converting to Judaism” (p. 15), citing these practices. The Mishnah (post-Paul, but reflecting earlier traditions) treats converts as full Israelites upon conversion (Bikkurim 1:4).
Status of Converts: Once converted, proselytes were legally and socially Jews, not Gentiles. Philo (Special Laws 1.51–52) equates proselytes with native-born Jews in religious duties, including Temple worship. Ezra 6:21, cited by Carrier (p. 4), shows non-Israelites joining Judah’s covenant community through adherence, not descent, a precedent for proselyte integration. This status allowed converts access to the Court of Israel, as they were no longer “foreigners” under Temple law.
3. Rabbinic and Biblical Support
Rabbinic Views: Carrier cites the Mishnah (Sanhedrin 10:3, p. 5) to show rabbis excluded uncircumcised Israelites from salvation, implying circumcised converts were included as Jews. Later rabbinic texts (Yevamot 47a–b) confirm converts’ full Jewish status, including Temple access, reflecting Second Temple norms. In Paul’s time, proselytes like the Ethiopian eunuch (Acts 8:27, if a convert) likely accessed inner courts for worship, as circumcision granted covenant membership.
Biblical Precedent: Exodus 12:48 allows circumcised foreigners to partake in Passover, integrating them into Israel’s worship, a practice extended to Temple access. Ruth, a Moabite convert (Ruth 1:16), was fully Israelite, implying eligibility for covenantal worship spaces. These texts, echoed in Paul’s theology (Gal. 3:29, Rom. 4:11–17), show non-Israelites could join Israel, supporting their access to the Court of Israel.
4. Implications for IO and Paul’s Gentiles
Refuting IO’s Ethnic Exclusivity: IO claims Paul’s ethnē were estranged Israelites, as only ethnic Israelites could enter the covenant (Staples, p. 4). However, the ability of non-Israelite converts to access the Court of Israel shows covenant membership was not ethnically exclusive. Carrier argues that Gentiles became Israelites through conversion (p. 15), aligning with Paul’s grafting of ethnē as “wild olive shoots” (Rom. 11:17–24, pp. 19–20). Staples notes Paul’s gospel re-creates Israel from ethnē, not by lineage (p. 5), reflecting this inclusive tradition.
Paul’s Context: Paul’s mission to ethnē (Rom. 11:13) included proselytes and God-fearers, many of whom were non-Israelites (Acts 13:46–48). His rejection of circumcision for Gentiles (Gal. 5:2–6) doesn’t negate that circumcised converts in his era accessed the Temple as Jews, supporting your argument that ethnē weren’t estranged Israelites. The Court of Israel’s openness to converts mirrors Paul’s spiritual redefinition of “Israel” (Rom. 9:6–8; Carrier, p. 18).
5. Addressing Potential Objections
Objection: Some argue only ethnic Jews entered the Court of Israel, citing strict purity laws. Response: Purity laws applied to all Jews, including converts, who were ritually pure post-immersion (Mishnah Pesachim 8:8). Josephus and Philo confirm converts’ full integration, and no text excludes them from the Court of Israel.
Objection: The “Soreg” inscription barred all non-Jews, including converts. Response: The inscription targeted uncircumcised “foreigners,” not proselytes, who were Jews post-conversion (Philo, Special Laws 1.51). Acts 21:28 implies circumcised Jews (including converts) were permitted.
Conclusion
In Paul’s time, non-Israelite/non-Jewish circumcised converts, as full Jews, were allowed into the Temple’s Court of Israel, provided they were ritually pure. Josephus, the Mishnah, and biblical precedents (Exod. 12:48, Ruth 1:16) confirm proselytes’ covenant status, granting access to worship spaces restricted to Jews. This refutes IO’s claim that covenant membership was ethnically exclusive, supporting Carrier’s point that Gentiles could become Israelites (p. 15) and your argument that Paul’s ethnē were non-Israelites (Rom. 11:17–24). The Temple’s inclusivity for converts aligns with Paul’s universal gospel, challenging IO’s restrictive narrative.
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Israel Only is basically just Two House Theology (aka Ephraim Movement) without the Preterism…
Overview of Two-House Theology (THT)
Two-House Theology posits that the ancient division of Israel into the Northern Kingdom (Israel/Ephraim, comprising ten tribes) and the Southern Kingdom (Judah, primarily Judah and Benjamin) has ongoing significance. After the Assyrian captivity (circa 721 BCE), the Northern tribes were scattered among the nations, losing their identity. THT proponents, like Batya Wootten and Moshe Koniuchowsky, argue that many modern Gentiles who come to faith in Yeshoua (Jesus) are descendants of these “lost tribes” (Ephraim), being regathered alongside Judah to fulfill prophecies of Israel’s restoration (e.g., Ezekiel 37:15–28). This theology emphasizes a physical and spiritual reunion of the two houses, often within a Messianic or Hebrew Roots context, and typically holds a futurist eschatology where the restoration is ongoing or future.
Overview of Israel Only Preterism (IOP)
Israel Only Preterism is a subset of preterism, a view that interprets most biblical prophecies as fulfilled in the past, particularly around the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE. IOP specifically asserts that the Bible’s redemptive narrative, including the New Testament, is exclusively about Israel—meaning the covenant people of God, often defined as the physical descendants of Jacob or the faithful remnant thereof. Proponents argue that salvation, the New Covenant, and eschatological promises (like the “coming” of Christ in Matthew 24) were for Israel alone, fulfilled in the first century. Gentiles are either excluded from salvation or understood as dispersed Israelites (from the Northern tribes) who were regathered through the Gospel, as seen in the chart you provided earlier (e.g., Romans 9:25–26 interpreted as Gentiles being Northern Israel).
Similarities Between Two-House Theology and Israel Only Preterism
Both theological frameworks share a focus on Israel’s central role in biblical prophecy and salvation, often interpreting Gentiles as part of Israel’s covenant identity. Below is a chart outlining their similarities, focusing on shared themes, interpretations, and implications:
Aspect
Two-House Theology (THT)
Israel Only Preterism (IOP)
Similarity
Focus on Israel’s Identity
Emphasizes the division of Israel into two houses (Judah and Ephraim) and their reunification.
Views the Bible’s redemptive narrative as exclusively for Israel (physical or covenantal descendants of Jacob).
Both prioritize Israel as the central focus of God’s covenant and redemptive plan, rejecting a universalist view of salvation.
Gentiles as Israel
Many Gentiles are seen as descendants of the lost tribes (Ephraim), regathered through faith in Yeshoua.
Gentiles in the New Testament are often interpreted as dispersed Israelites (e.g., Northern tribes), not ethnic outsiders.
Both interpret Gentiles as part of Israel, either as lost tribes (THT) or dispersed covenant Israel (IOP), rather than distinct ethnic groups.
Regathering of Israel
Focuses on the regathering of the two houses, often seen as an ongoing or future event tied to the Messianic age.
Sees the regathering of Israel as fulfilled in the first century, with the Gospel calling back dispersed Israelites (e.g., Acts 2:5–11).
Both emphasize the biblical theme of Israel’s regathering, though differing on the timing (future/ongoing vs. past).
Use of Old Testament Prophecies
Relies on prophecies like Ezekiel 37 (two sticks), Hosea 1–2, and Isaiah 11 to argue for the restoration of all Israel.
Uses similar prophecies (e.g., Hosea 1–2 in Romans 9:25–26) to argue that the regathering occurred in the first century for Israel alone.
Both heavily draw on Old Testament prophecies to support their views on Israel’s restoration, often citing the same passages (e.g., Hosea, Isaiah).
Covenant Continuity
Views the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31) as applying to both houses of Israel, with Gentiles included as Ephraim.
Interprets the New Covenant as exclusively for Israel (Jeremiah 31:31), fulfilled in the first century for the covenant people.
Both see the New Covenant as tied to Israel, not a universal replacement of Israel with a new “Church” (anti-supersessionist stance).
Rejection of Replacement Theology
Rejects supersessionism; the Church does not replace Israel but includes regathered Israelites (Ephraim).
Also rejects supersessionism; the New Testament is about Israel’s redemption, not a new entity replacing Israel.
Both oppose the traditional Christian view that the Church universally replaces Israel, maintaining Israel’s enduring covenant role.
Interpretation of “Nations” (Goyim)
“Nations” in Scripture often refer to the scattered Northern tribes (e.g., Genesis 17:4–5, “multitude of nations”).
“Nations” in the New Testament (e.g., Matthew 24:14) are often seen as dispersed Israelites, not all ethnic Gentiles.
Both interpret the biblical “nations” (goyim) as including or primarily referring to dispersed Israelites, not all humanity.
Theological Lens on New Testament
Reads New Testament passages (e.g., Ephesians 2:13–17) as including Gentiles as part of Israel’s restoration.
Similarly interprets passages like Romans 9–11 or Ephesians 2 as addressing Israel’s remnant, including dispersed tribes.
Both use a hermeneutical lens that sees New Testament references to Gentiles as part of Israel’s covenant narrative, not a separate entity.
Analysis and Critical Notes
Shared Emphasis on Israel’s Covenant Role: Both THT and IOP center Israel as the sole recipient of God’s covenant promises, rejecting the idea that the Church universally replaces Israel (a hallmark of supersessionism). This is evident in their interpretations of the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31) as being for Israel, whether extended to regathered Ephraim (THT) or fulfilled for Israel in the first century (IOP).
Gentiles as Israelites: A key similarity is their shared view that many “Gentiles” in the New Testament are actually dispersed Israelites. THT sees this as a physical lineage (lost tribes), while IOP often frames it covenantally (Israelites by covenant status, not necessarily ethnicity). This aligns with the chart you provided, where verses like Romans 9:25–26 equate Gentiles with Northern Israel.
Differing Eschatology: While they share thematic elements, their eschatological timelines diverge significantly. THT typically holds a futurist view, seeing the regathering as ongoing or future, whereas IOP, as a preterist framework, sees these prophecies as fulfilled by 70 CE. This difference affects how they apply their interpretations but doesn’t negate the shared focus on Israel’s restoration.
Potential Overlap in Scripture Use: Both rely on similar Old Testament passages (e.g., Hosea 1–2, Isaiah 11) to argue for Israel’s regathering, though IOP applies them to first-century fulfillment, while THT sees a broader timeline. Their use of New Testament texts (e.g., Romans 9–11, Ephesians 2) also overlaps, as seen in the chart’s interpretations.
Critical Examination
Strength of Similarities: The strongest similarity lies in their anti-supersessionist stance and their view of Gentiles as part of Israel’s covenant identity. This challenges mainstream Christian theology, which often sees the Church as a new entity distinct from Israel. Their shared hermeneutic of reading “nations” as dispersed Israel also provides a consistent interpretive thread.
Limitations and Differences: Despite these similarities, their implications differ. THT often includes a broader soteriology, where Gentiles (as Ephraim) join Judah in a future restoration, potentially allowing for non-Israelite inclusion through faith. IOP, however, can be more exclusivist, limiting salvation to Israel alone, with Gentiles only included if they are covenantally Israel. This exclusivism in IOP can conflict with THT’s more inclusive restoration vision.
Historical Context: Both views have roots in reactions against traditional Christian theology. THT evolved from British Israelism and gained traction in the late 20th century through Messianic movements, while IOP is a more recent development within preterist circles, often associated with online communities on platforms like X, where users debate eschatology and soteriology.
Conclusion
Two-House Theology and Israel Only Preterism share significant similarities in their focus on Israel’s covenant identity, their interpretation of Gentiles as part of Israel, and their rejection of replacement theology. However, their eschatological frameworks (futurist vs. preterist) and soteriological scope (broader inclusion vs. Israel-only) create distinct applications of these shared themes. The chart above highlights their common ground, which aligns with the earlier discussions about the chart of New Testament verses and their implications for Israel’s identity.
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Judaism, Mystery Cults, and Christianity
It is implausible that gentiles in the first century thought of themselves as estranged Israelites, even if Paul told them they were (which he didn’t). No gentile becoming a follower of Christ thought he was doing so because he could trace his lineage back 750 years to northern Israel, or because he thought he was bound to some covenant he had no knowledge of, or participation in.
There is strong evidence that early Christianity was similar to Greco/Roman savior mystery cults in many ways. Mystery cults offered personal salvation, often in the form of eternal life, rebirth, or a blessed afterlife. New members had to undergo secret initiation ceremonies, which often involved symbolic death and rebirth, purification, or the revealing of sacred knowledge. Many cults centered around a divine figure who suffered, died, and was resurrected or triumphant over death (e.g., Osiris in the Isis cult, Dionysus in Orphic traditions, or Mithras slaying the bull as a life-giving act). Initiates were often expected to live by higher moral or ethical standards, sometimes with promises of judgment in the afterlife (especially in the Orphic and Isis traditions). Many cults celebrated ritual meals that symbolized unity with the god and among the members. The cults often provided a deeply emotional and mystical experience, sometimes including visions, ecstasy, or trance states.
Richard Carrier notes in his “Jesus from Outer Space,” on page 51: “Christianity is unmistakably a Jewish version of this same Western cultural trend [Greco/Roman savior mystery cults]—and was such from its very founding. This already-popular savior-cult model was simply Judaized—and very quickly (under Paul) made even more alike, rendering it even more popular. Thence the Christianity we know was born. The ‘differences’ from all those other cults are the Jewish element. The similarities are the Western cultural influences that brought forth something new.”
Thus, the appeal of Christianity to gentiles was not some kind of reintegration into a long-lost covenant with Yahweh, which would have been entirely foreign to them. Rather, the appeal was a universal salvation from death, as the mystery cults offered it. Robert Turcan writes in his book: “A religion is successful only if it can monopolize the individual totally: body and soul, mind and senses. If the impoverishment, indigence or inanity of the liturgy engender indifference, divorce between knowledge and religion undermines or relativizes belief. In order to be stimulating and full of dynamism, a faith must provide an all-embracing explanation of man, the world and life.” (The Cults of the Roman Empire – page 22) No gentile would care about some lost covenant or a dead people they themselves had no tangible connection to. Christianity would never have spread throughout the gentile world if that’s what they were expected to believe.
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The Israel Only (IO) narrative, as defined by its proponents, is the view that the entire Bible’s redemptive narrative pertains only to God’s covenant people—Jews, Gentile descendants of the tribes of Israel, and non-descendant proselytes under the law—ending in AD 70 with a scriptural focus on Hebrew culture and consistent preterism (Michael Bradley). But IO proponents claim it’s just a story, a fictional narrative. This is where IO falls apart. Unless IOers argue that Paul is a fictional character, it’s not just a story. Paul was a real person, preaching a real gospel to real people. Two questions must be answered: 1. Did Paul believe the same thing IO Preterists believe? 2. Did first-century Gentiles believe the same thing IO Preterists believe? Historical evidence answers ‘no’ to both. Paul’s universal gospel, cosmic eschatology, and mission to non-Israelites contradict IO’s Israel-only, AD 70-limited narrative. First-century Gentiles saw themselves as non-Israelites, adopted through faith, following a law-free gospel with cosmic hopes, not as covenant-bound Israelites. IO’s narrative, while claiming scriptural consistency, imposes a fictional framework on historical reality, disconnected from early Christianity.
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Analysis of the Apostolic Fathers’ Writings
1. Clement of Rome (1 Clement, c. 96 AD):
• Eschatology: Clement does not explicitly address the destruction of Jerusalem (70 AD) as a fulfillment of prophecy. In 1 Clement 23–27, he speaks of future resurrection and judgment, suggesting an unfulfilled eschatology. For example, he writes, “Let us consider the glorious gifts which He has promised to those who love Him” (1 Clem. 34), implying future expectation.
• Israel and the Church: Clement uses Old Testament imagery (e.g., Israel as God’s people) but applies it to the Church universally, not limiting salvation to ethnic Israel (1 Clem. 29–31). He sees Christians as heirs of God’s promises, suggesting a continuity model where the Church inherits Israel’s role.
• IO Preterism Relevance: No clear preterist framework or Israel-only focus. His eschatology is futuristic, and his view of the Church is inclusive of Gentiles.
2. Ignatius of Antioch (Letters, c. 108–140 AD):
• Eschatology: Ignatius focuses on martyrdom and personal eschatology, with little reference to apocalyptic events or 70 AD. In Epistle to the Ephesians 11, he speaks of Christ’s work as defeating death but does not tie this to a specific historical event like Jerusalem’s fall. His eschatology seems partially realized but not explicitly preterist.
• Israel and the Church: Ignatius emphasizes the unity of the Church as the new people of God, transcending Jewish-Gentile distinctions (Magnesians 8–10). He critiques Judaizing practices, suggesting Christianity supersedes Judaism, not that it is exclusively for Israel.
• IO Preterism Relevance: Ignatius shows no Israel-only focus or preterist interpretation of 70 AD. His theology is universal, and eschatology is not tied to a completed event.
3. Polycarp of Smyrna (Epistle to the Philippians, c. 110–140 AD):
• Eschatology: Polycarp emphasizes future resurrection and judgment (Phil. 2, 7). He does not mention 70 AD or suggest prophecies were fulfilled then. His focus is on enduring faith for a future reward.
• Israel and the Church: Polycarp does not explicitly address Israel’s role but speaks of Christians (Jew and Gentile) as God’s people, implying a universal Church (Phil. 3).
• IO Preterism Relevance: No evidence of preterism or an Israel-only covenant. His eschatology is futuristic and inclusive.
4. Epistle of Barnabas (c. 80–130 AD):
• Eschatology: The Epistle allegorizes Old Testament prophecies, focusing on Christ’s fulfillment of the Law (Barn. 2–6). It does not explicitly reference 70 AD as a prophetic endpoint but interprets the Temple’s destruction as evidence of Judaism’s obsolescence (Barn. 16). The author sees the physical Temple’s end as signaling a spiritual temple (the Church), not a final eschatological event.
• Israel and the Church: The Epistle strongly argues that the Church has replaced Israel as the recipient of God’s covenant (Barn. 4, 14). It claims Jews misunderstood the Law, and Christians (including Gentiles) are the true heirs of God’s promises. This supersessionist view is incompatible with IO Preterism’s Israel-only focus.
• IO Preterism Relevance: The Epistle comes closest to a preterist-like view by linking the Temple’s destruction to covenantal shift, but it lacks an explicit claim that all prophecies were fulfilled by 70 AD. Its universal view of the Church contradicts IO Preterism’s exclusivity.
5. Papias of Hierapolis (Fragments, c. 100–130 AD):
• Eschatology: Papias, preserved in Eusebius (Ecclesiastical History 3.39), describes a future millennial kingdom with vivid material blessings, suggesting a futuristic eschatology. He does not connect 70 AD to prophetic fulfillment.
• Israel and the Church: Papias’ fragments focus on Jesus’ teachings and apostolic traditions, not Israel’s role. His eschatology implies a universal scope, not an Israel-only framework.
• IO Preterism Relevance: Papias’ chiliastic (millennial) expectations rule out preterism, and there’s no indication of an Israel-only focus.
6. The Shepherd of Hermas (c. 100–150 AD):
• Eschatology: Hermas emphasizes repentance in light of an impending judgment (Visions 1–3). He does not reference 70 AD or suggest prophecies were fulfilled. His eschatology is futuristic and ethical.
• Israel and the Church: Hermas uses imagery from Israel (e.g., the vine, Similitudes 9) but applies it to the Church as a universal body, not ethnic Israel.
• IO Preterism Relevance: No preterist or Israel-only elements. The focus is on future judgment and universal salvation.
7. Didache (c. 80–120 AD):
• Eschatology: The Didache includes an eschatological section (Did. 16), warning of future trials, the “deceiver,” and the Lord’s coming. This suggests an unfulfilled eschatology, with no mention of 70 AD as a fulfillment.
• Israel and the Church: The Didache is a practical manual for a mixed Jewish-Gentile Christian community, with no emphasis on Israel alone. It assumes the Church as God’s people.
• IO Preterism Relevance: No preterist or Israel-only themes. Eschatology is futuristic, and the community is universal.
Key Observations
• Preterism: None of the Apostolic Fathers explicitly interpret the destruction of Jerusalem (70 AD) as the fulfillment of all biblical prophecies, a core tenet of IO Preterism. The Epistle of Barnabas comes closest by linking the Temple’s destruction to a covenantal shift, but it frames this as a transition to the Church, not a final eschatological event. Most Fathers (e.g., Polycarp, Papias, Didache) express futuristic eschatological hopes, expecting a future return of Christ, resurrection, or judgment.
• Israel-Only Focus: The Fathers consistently present the Church as the new people of God, incorporating Gentiles and often superseding or fulfilling Israel’s role (Barnabas, Clement, Ignatius). This universalism directly contradicts IO Preterism’s claim that God’s promises were exclusively for physical Israel.
• Covenantal Views: The Fathers lean toward supersessionism or continuity, where the Church inherits or fulfills Israel’s covenant promises. None limit salvation or prophecy to ethnic Israel alone.
Conclusion
There is no clear evidence of Israel Only Preterism in the writings of the Apostolic Fathers. While the Epistle of Barnabas notes the Temple’s destruction as significant, it interprets this as a shift to the universal Church, not a fulfillment of all prophecy for Israel alone. The Fathers’ eschatology is generally futuristic, expecting a future return of Christ, and their theology is inclusive, viewing the Church as the heir of God’s promises for both Jews and Gentiles. IO Preterism, as a modern construct, finds no direct parallel in these early texts.